Bayoufrogg Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Found at base of oak. Cap is darker brown. Cap, and especially stem, have slight purplish hue to them. Carpenter ants produced woody debris nearby and some is sitting on top of cap. White pore surface bruised brown after long period of time. No spore print produced. Taste/spit test is moderately bitter. Is this tylopilus badiceps or something else? Mushroom expert notes taste of tylopilus badiceps as mild, not bitter. Alternative id could be boletus separans. Only hiccup is field guide says pore surface unchanged when bruised. This one clearly bruises over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mushroom Whisperer Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 I would lean towards Tylopilus. Any reticulation on the stem? Maybe a little at the top? I can't tell from the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayoufrogg Posted August 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Heres a better shot of the stems. They are striated, but no reticulation imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svs Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 I agree with Wisperer toward tylopilus. I found separans before, it looks different, yellow non bruising pore surface, not bitter, slight white stem reticculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 I've been meaning to ask on one of these tylopilus/bolete threads, is there a general rule that dark reticulation points to tylopilus and whiteish reticulation points to the edulis complex, or is that an over generalization? Just been noticing it come up a lot and never heard anyone state whether that is a guideline definitively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayoufrogg Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Im gonna go ahead and call this tylopilus plumbeoviolaceus. Fits quit nicely imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Tylopilus makes sense here, possibly T. plumbeoviolaceus. But the bruising on the pore surface seems too intense, and the surface of the stalks with more texture/ornamentation than T. plumbeoviolaceus. Also, T. plumbeoviolaceus has an intensely bitter taste. I have no better species proposal. T. ferugineus is similar, but this species has a smooth stalk surface. Reminds me somewhat of immature Austroboletus gracilis, except this (several varieties) is a mainly northern NA species that associates with conifers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayoufrogg Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Dave, these were very fresh and smaller. I went back a few days later and picked some in same area that were a little larger (same appearance). They were extremely bitter. Not sure if age effects bitterness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 T. plumbeoviolaceus is sounding better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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