Gillian Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Many of these growing in lines on the forest floor today. Dry, radially cracked caps ( don't seem to have knobs), satin sheen on caps and stems (almost like a crust of bread), attached gills, gills not closely spaced and not all continuous. No smell that I can distinguish. Getting a spore print now...looks like it will be pinkish but it's slow. I have it beside a Pluteus cervinus and the latter is a totally different texture and easily dropping its spores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillian Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 More data...spore print is pinkish brown, virtually the same colour as Pluteus cervinus ( side by side in the photo), maybe a bit darker. Under the microscope the spores are a bit angular and larger compared to P. Cervinus (both shown for comparison at 400x, Pluteus first, Entoloma second ). Any other genera this could be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 Nice comparison between genera Entoloma and Pluteus. The spore photos seal the deal here. Although a bit out of focus, the Entoloma spores are seen to have irregular/angular profiles. In the photo showing the inverted caps I can see the free gills of the Pluteus and the attached gills of the Entoloma. Indeed, the spore print colors are similar. A few years ago, at a foray of our local club here in NE PA, a member almost mistook a large gray Entoloma --with sinuate gill attachment, ie. attached to the stalk by a thread-- for a Pluteus. I took the mushroom home and settled any such question by scoping the spores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillian Posted August 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 Thank you Dave. You have such a wealth of knowledge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 But, I don't have a species name for that Entoloma. Gilian, where did you find the name "Entoloma clypeatum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillian Posted August 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 Dave, I initially got it from my "Mushrooms of Ontario and Eastern Canada" field guide, then online from several sources: https://www.first-nature.com/fungi/entoloma-clypeatum.php http://www.mushrooms.su/en/entoloma_clypeatum.htm (this site also lists several other names for it as well, both Latin and Russian) http://www.mycobank.org/MB/193495 https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/344650-Entoloma-clypeatum/browse_photos I didn't find a reference to it on https://www.mushroomexpert.com/entoloma.html but I thought perhaps it has been reclassified. The date on my Field Guide is 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamilleR Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 Wow good post. Are the Entolomas on the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillian Posted August 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 Thanks! Yes, they were on the forest floor, almost in a straight line for ~30 feet. It makes me wonder whether there is an old treefall buried there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Entoloma is a large genus (lots of species, several subdivisions). Most species are terrestrial. A few grow on wood, and a few are parasitic on other fungi. The species pictured is one I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristina Newton Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Thank you, Gillian. At last I can confirm what those are! I found mine in south west UK. Spore print cinnamon, but the image I have of that is rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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