Coalkracker Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Went out and found a few after work. I know there are different species of honey mushrooms but I'm not sure which ones are which so I've added a few pics. The first pic is of all of them, then the following pics are close ups of the tops and the underside. I've always differentiated them as stumpies and flat tops but I am interested to learn the actual names. The ones in the middle are unusually large for the common stumpies I usually find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Nice cross-section of Armillarias. I've seen really pale-capped ones, like some seen here. In some cases these are ones that start out yellow or tan and fade with age. Armillaria mushrooms can change quite a bit as they age. I think these two photos may show the same species; growing in close proximity. Saw these yesterday. Great year for the popinkies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn15 Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Up here in Manitoba Canada, us Ukrainians call them pidpenky. I am sure the Polish popinky are ALMOST as good though. lol. As for the pirogi or pyrohy that go with these mushrooms.....well that is a debate for the ages. I would gladly volunteer to be a judge if our two ethnicities ever want to settle it though. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 A Russian friend of mine calls them oopyeta (my best guess at spelling). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coalkracker Posted October 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 It just so happens I'm half polish and half ukrainian lol. They are great with pieorgi and also on christmas eve we make a dark gravy type soup called machanka with the popinki being the key ingredient. I'm getting a craving for it just talking about it! Oopyeta and pidpenky are both new terms to me...but the name "honey mushroom" is relatively new to me also. I'm in the upper scranton area and until recently I've only ever known them as popinki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutddicted Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Podienki or odpienki in Polish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irisha20 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Im from Belarus and we call them Op'yata, here are some we found today! They are delicious!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Irisha, is there a specific reason why you add the whole onion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Boy Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Another variant that you may find is a yellow version of the ringless honey mushroom, Armillaria tabescens : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irisha20 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 13 hours ago, Dave W said: Irisha, is there a specific reason why you add the whole onion? Yes, If the onion turns blue, its poisonous, We do that with all the mushrooms we cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 That's what I thought, Irisha. Some people put objects made of silver into the pot. I wonder if this trick works with ALL types of toxic mushrooms. That's a really interesting variety of A. tabescens, Feral Boy. I've never see this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitog Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Irisha20, everything that I've read about mushrooms states that there is no single test that indicates whether a mushroom is poisonous or not. There are so many different types of toxic compounds in mushrooms that it is inconceivable that any simple test will identify toxicity. Relying on the blue onion test to identify bad mushrooms is dangerous; the only way to be certain that a mushroom is safe to eat is to positively identify it as an edible species, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattVa Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Dave, My father in-law who is from WVA has always told of how his grandmother always placed a silver dime in the pan. I have read this was unreliable and some say don't work at all. Could it be that it may work for certain toxins therefore possibility rule out some look alikes but not all mushrooms in general? He did say if the dime would turn black(could be dark blue) she would pitch the entire pan out. This is not anything I plan to use but I'm always intrigued by the old ways. Alot of times these old people won't as dumb as we thought there methodology was unexplained and therefore not taken seriously and practices just lost in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn15 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 On 2016-10-12 at 10:38 PM, Dave W said: That's what I thought, Irisha. Some people put objects made of silver into the pot. I wonder if this trick works with ALL types of toxic mushrooms. That's a really interesting variety of A. tabescens, Feral Boy. I've never see this one. My father swears by it. However, he only picks honey mushrooms and has never actually seen an onion turn blue because he knows what he's picking. Its and old wives tale imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 I think that any of these shortcuts --onion/silver darkening-- may help to identify one or more toxin, but likely not all toxins. I recommend against using any shortcut to find toxic mushrooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattVa Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 I agree 100% .....not a practice I will be using to distinguish anything. But I'm curious none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunShroomer3578 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Heck, I'm just wishing I had a single specimen to toss in a pot and boil with onions, pennies,dimes, or even tractor tires !!!! ☹️ 1 month and still no rain !! On the subject of old wise cooking tales..... Get this... My grand mother used to put galvanized nails in her wild, yard bird gumbos, to tenderize the meat and get rid of wild flavor!!! Yes, that's correct, I said GALVANIZED nails!! May explain the reason I'm a little off the WALL ... Lol . That's one cultural cuisine I did not carry over into my generation. Not exactly sure where it derived from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattVa Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 That's crazy Cajun! At least you had plenty of zinc in you diet.....maybe a little to much ..lol. We had a dry spell here in Virginia for most of August and sept that pretty much ended my Chanterelle hunting So I know what your going thrue. So far Oct is great.....lots of black trumpets right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Wow! Black Trumpets in October...? I think I have seen this up here in PA once, maybe a handful or so. What a difference a few hundred miles can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattVa Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Dave I have picked about 3 pounds this past week out of one patch. I had not expected them either but I had been watching this spot all summer because it looked good and resemble another spot I have. I guess all this rain finally paid off...sure enough they showed up. I will post some pics under general discission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualsetters Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Honeys have been prolific around here lately and another type of mushroom popped up locally at the same time that could easily been mixed in with them with out notice. I didn't take time to identify it , but it was very close in color minus the scaliness and with a thinner stringy stem. The spores were all over the gills and come off on your finger brown. I did assume they were honeys at first look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattVa Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Do you think they where the deadly Galerina Marginata ,Dual? They are supposed to have a brown spore and grow in the same places and resemble the Honeys when they are larger. I believe Galerina grow more in singles though, I have not been been able to find a galerina marginata so that's all I know about it. Definitely has slowed me up on trying the honeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualsetters Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I'll look into it Matt. Anymore I'm more focused on mushrooms I've learned to positively ID. Time isn't on my side haha ..... No that wasn't it. The gills were tighter packed on these. Ill check my Audobon book after work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Galerina marginata generally first appears a little later than the beginning of the Armillaria season. But, I have found this type mushrooms at many different times during the year. There are differences between G. marginata and Armillaria. One such difference is that "Deadly Galerina" does not have stem stuffed with white pithy material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mstima67 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 I do not believe the very light colored ones are Honeys. They look more to be an amanita sp. It also looks like you have a Hen of the woods in there. The smaller ones that are clumped together, do look like Honeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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