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About DufferinShroomer

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  1. Hi Mike! You are lucky to live in one of the best mushrooming areas of Ontario. The downside is that most of the folks who might help you with identification live 150 miles south of you. Im going to send you a private message with a suggestion. Look for it.
  2. I wouldnt worry too much about depleting a mushroom patch by over harvesting. A single decent sized giant puffball for example might release 7 trillion spores. That is quite a few and seriously if you harvest every giant puffball you see that one over there that you didnt see will produce enough spores to pretty much blanket the planet and there will be millions of puffballs that go unharvested. Several years ago one of the American satellites stuck out a net with a fine filter while in orbit to see what it might catch. It caught mushroom spores. The damn things are everywhere even in orbit. If you want to farm a patch over several years one thing you might want to consider is being kind to the mycellium. The mushroom organism is living underground so you might consider trying to harvest the mushrooms as gently as possible to avoid ripping up the mycellium. Maybe replace your divots. If you absolutely must worry about spores you could consider holding that king bolete out at arms length and doing a brief happy dance to celebrate finding it. That will likely spread 187 million spores and you can eat the thing without feeling particularly guilty. And anyways, your little patch will probably get bulldozed next year to make room for row housing or a mall. The article on this site: http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/wong/BOT135/2009/Lecture05/Lect05.htm might help put the whole deal into perspective.
  3. I dont have any problem with someone harvesting mushrooms commercially. Some reasons: - Clearly nobody else is harvesting the same spots or there wouldnt be enough mushrooms to make the spot worthwhile for the commercial guys , so in general they arent interfering with anyone else. -The theory is that the mushroom is the fruiting body of the fungal organism in the way that an apple is the fruiting body of an apple tree. Hardly anybody would condemn picking the apples from a wild apple tree because the tree itself isnt being materially harmed. -Next year the spot that is fruiting might well be a subdivision. Go ahead and harvest the mushrooms before the bulldozers arrive. -even if the commercial guys dont harvest the morels you arent going to find the spot anytime soon. And if they do manage to deplete a patch they will abandon it and you still wont know about it. I cant help but think about morels fruiting at the base of a dead elm. After a couple of years of fruiting they will have sucked all the available nutrients from the dead elm and the organism will die. Is there really any point in not harvesting the mushrooms when the patch will be dead next year or the year after anyways? To anyone who can actually find enough morels to be worth trying to make a few bucks I say good for you and yes Im jealous.
  4. Might also be the rare and elusive Morchella photoshopimus which has been known to be quite large.
  5. Yes indeed. Check this map. http://morelhunters.com/index.php/
  6. Here in Ontario I have never seen an early season shaggy mane. I start finding them generally at the start of October. C. Quadrifidus will fruit in late spring and doesnt look enormously different from C. comatus. http://mushroomexpert.com/coprinopsis_variegata.html
  7. There could be any number of answers and lots of combinations of answers but the truth is that it is not at all uncommon for some forests to be pretty much mushroom free zones. Here are a few things that you might consider... =think of mushrooms in terms of being saprobes or alternately forming relationships with some tree or shrub. If your bit of forest is what I call clean (ie almost no dead wood on the ground, no fallen trees etc) then there isnt going to be much food for the saprobes that rotting wood and branches or the underground parts of dead stumps. In really well managed tracts as soon as a tree starts to look a bit sick it gets cut and sold and perhaps decades have passed since a tree has dies naturally and hit the ground. -Forests that are routinely thinned every few years will have a sparse canopy that lets in sunlight which will dry the soil. Mushrooms dont like dry. That extra sunlight might be warming the soil too much also. -Not all trees form relationships with mushrooms that fruit aggressively. Where I live for example a pure stand of sugar maple is totally not worth a look. Box elder and ironwood are also pretty useless. -Mushrooms that grow on the side of dead trees do of course need dead trees so again that well managed tract wont be the place to be looking for oysters. -Soil type can make a difference as well. Mushrooms tend to like a soil that drains moderately quickly without ponding and without being beach sand. Remember that mushrooms need moisture. -I think that soil acidity or alkalinity can make a difference as well and that is something that isnt very obvious -soil could even have a salt content from the ocean. Then if you combine some of those factors it can magnify effects. I dont think there is any chance at all that there is a place on the planet that hasnt received some spores. Air has been scooped up by satellites in orbit and examined and found to contain fungal spores so the stuff is everywhere. Some forests just dont have the right conditions to fruit mushrooms that get seen and that just has to be accepted I guess in the same way that we accept the fact that some forests fruit mushrooms like crazy.
  8. You folks in the Excited States need to get busy. Here is the Chris Mattherly progression map. Some folks may have already missed their main flush. http://morelmushroomhunting.com/morel_progression_sightings_map.htm
  9. Wade, there is in fact a secret to finding lots of mushrooms consistently and the secret is..... Ummm ok I cant describe in in one sentence but stay with me a minute. Lets say you decided you wanted to go pick some wild apples tomorrow. Where would you look? Well with a bit of either luck or skill you might have noticed some wild apples trees in the recent past so your best bet is since apples are the fruit of the apple tree is to go where you know there are apple trees. If you picked some wild apples over in that spot last year there is a pretty good chance those trees are still there and there is a good chance there will be apples again this year. In fact if you know where there are a few spots that have wild apple trees then you dont have to drive all over the country looking for them. You can go directly to the trees and spend your time picking rather than looking. Easy. It turns out that mushrooms are the fruiting reproductive body of a fungal organism in pretty much the same way an apple is the fruit of an apple tree. To collect lots of mushrooms you simply need to know where several of these fungal organisms live because these mostly underground organisms dont get up and move. If it was there last year then there is a good chance it will be there this year and all you have to do is remember where it was. Easy. sort of. The problem is of course that these fungal organisms are underground and you cant see them. The thing is that if you find a patch of mushrooms that you like then you can be 100% certain that the underground organism is right there under your feet and it will be there next year too. Remember that spot. Write it down along with the date when you found mushrooms there. You arent going to get fat on one spot though. To get to the stage where you can simply drive directly to a spot where you just know chanterelles will be fruiting this week you need to have put in the time and the legwork needed to find a few spots where the chanterelle organism lives and you find those spots by finding chanterelles and remembering where you found them. So someone new to mushroom picking starts with zero good spots and has to roam the woods in the hope that he will get lucky. Someone with 10 or 20 or 40 good spots can look at the calendar and know with reasonable certainty exactly where he can collect a basket of chanterelles this week. Guess which one of you is going to come home with the most mushrooms. Right. It isnt you. So the name of the game is to accumulate an inventory of spots. There are 2 ways to do that. The first is to find someone who has spent a few years finding spots to show you where his good spots are. Right. That isnt going to happen. The second way is you just have to put in the time and the miles and take good notes. Get out into the woods as often as you can. Get into as many different types of woods as you can. Pay attention to what the actual spots where you find mushrooms look like. High land or low land? dense woods or open? what sorts of trees? Pay attention, it is all important. Pretty soon you will be able to walk into a forest and just know to go look over there rather than in that direction and your success rate will start to climb. If you are diligent and get out into the woods a lot in your first year then you should stumble into a few spots for next year. But next year dont stop looking for new spots. In fact dont stop looking for new spots until you have so many that you know where more mushrooms live than you can pick. That might take 2 years or it might take 5 years but at some point you will become one of those people who can go into the woods to spots where you know a particular mushroom lives and spend your time harvesting rather than stumbling through the woods looking. There is a wee bit of a shortcut. Join a local mushroom club that organizes weekly forays. The members arent going to show you their best secret spots but it wont take long with the group to start improving your finding skills. And you get the added benefit of meeting folks who just might be able to help you a bit.
  10. Evan is that black widow?
  11. If you need to eat wormy mushrooms I think you arent looking hard enough for better quality ones. I toss the wormy ones. yuck.
  12. What mushrooms did you mix?
  13. The indigo lactarius is a good edible, especially when you find them in cool weather. I often find big fruitings in August where I live and I usually find these warm weather indigos to be badly infested with worms (I guess these are gnat larvae). One interesting thing about indigos is that when you fry them they will bleed their blue color into the cooking oil so you can get some weird effects. Fry some indigos, toss in some eggs and scramble them and the blue mixes with the yellow eggs to produce green eggs. Indigos have a nice firm texture and you can use them in pretty much any way that you would use any other mushroom. Im not so sure about soup though, the color might be an issue but I admit to never having used them for soup. I quite like this mushroom when I can find some that are worm free.
  14. You might find this interesting... Once many of the rivers that emptied into the east side of Lake Huron had a wonderful smallmouth bass fishery. Lots of big ones and that attracted quite a bit of fishing pressure. It only took a few years for the lots of big ones to turn into lots of small ones and hardly any big ones at all. It turns out that in those rivers a 16 inch bass was likely to be 15 years old and bigger ones proportionately older. While the fishing pressure has dropped off a bit it seems tough for a bass to avoid getting caught for enough years to make it to 16 inches and beyond. I was surprised at just how slowly bass grew and I can see how it doesnt take much pressure to have a real effect on the fishery. Apparently the walleye in Ontario have a similarly slow growth rate.
  15. I dont think it is agaricus. My thinking is that it is in fact a mushroom that has been around a while and if that is the case it is almost certainly spored out. If it is spored out then almost certainly a lot of spores would have landed on and colored the ring and the ring is white. If it was agaricus I would expect the ring to be pretty much brown with spores. If that makes sense then we are looking for a mushroom with white spores and what looks like brownish gills. uggggh. I could almost be convinced it was an amanita with discolored gills due to age. I would be surprised if this one gets resolved Sue but then I am often surprised.